If you keep the ball rolling at all times it never gets stale, and I think we’ve been very good at keeping the ball rolling. " "Oh, I shot the Chili Peppers in ’84." an artist. It just seems too pretentious to be like "I’m an artist." I like the quiet type of people—their work speaks for what they do and they don’t have to announce what they do. I was just hanging out with artists doing art and I was enjoying it. I was, "I’m never going to be in another film—that’s never going to happen, because I look like hamburger right now."Yeah. " He gave me shout-out on stage—"This is for Norman! After the concert I said, "I have to take a cab back to the hotel to meet this director," and he’s, like, "No, take my driver." He gave me a driver who, like, got from here to that wall Oh, dude, I was hideous.
And, you know, the cuts on my forehead, and the bruises, and the black eyes, it doesn’t matter, it’s awesome. I was more of a listener than a talker as a kid, and I would really suss people out before I opened my mouth. There was a comedic thing about it—like if you watch a scary movie and you scream and laugh at the same time. " And they’re "You’re her boyfriend." And I go, "Well, do I rape her? Being stereotyped in that way is totally fine by me. My favorite actors are Willem Dafoe and Gary Oldman and Christopher Walken and I don’t see any of those guys you know doing romantic comedies on a beach, you know what I’m saying? And at that time I was doing a lot of bad decisions and I just said, "Fuck it, I’ll just call you out." You know: "I see you." It was kind of like that. It’s kind of like if you hear knocks at night in your house and you’re convinced there’s a ghost, if you just start yelling at him he’ll go away. I mean, I can get a goofy little Daryl present, or somebody goes, "You know what, you’ve affected me in a positive way." So it’s a combination of those and people’s breast implants—it just goes all over the place.
I think that mentality has matured me a lot in the past couple years, you know. I hate that word, "quirky." It’s like the worst fucking word in the world._ [begins again] _I was at a very experimental phase in my life. I think I might have thought of myself as that at one point, growing up. I like feeling, or I liked feeling, a bit on the outside for my own personal secretive reasons. It was kind of like that that gave me a nice energy. I don’t know if it’s like a virgin but it’s definitely somebody that’s not got game. ’ I was like, ’Let me hear you out.’ He said, ’Well, he’s prison gay—like, you’ll catch him looking at a member of the same sex, but if you mention it to him, he’ll just stab you and be like Had nothing to do with that. Daryl’s not the type of guy who’s gonna throw somebody up against a tree in the moonlight. You could drop him off in the middle of the woods with a stick and he’ll come back well fed and doing well, but I don’t think in matters of the heart he’s real secure.
I’m more of a Francis Bacon guy and less of a Banksy guy, you know what I’m saying? It’s becoming part of the socially accepted norm, I guess. And I guess I didn’t fit in with those people, didn’t like those people, grew up not wanting to be one of those people. Now I have tick bites all over me, and I’ll just, "Whatever..." So, yeah, there’s certain similarities. has that certain thing about it where, "So what do you do?
At the table, he drinks a coffee, but refuses a second.
I’ve always been a fan of horror films and I like aggressive music and I like aggressive people—they all kind of were interesting to me. And I like feeling like I don’t fit in, and I’ve always liked feeling like I don’t fit in and I’m perfectly cool with it. I think once I sort of accepted parts of that in myself, I felt better about myself. I think that’s all very interesting and I would rather play him like not somebody that’s got cool guy moves or anything like that. I mean, I have crossbows and compound bows and shoot them now.
I mean I really don’t see myself ever being, or wanting to be, in some sort of light romantic comedy about nothing. When someone would fake it to fit in on the outside it really rubbed me the wrong way, you know. When I started I was living in Chinatown and I was terrified of bugs.
And it was fun, and it was interesting, and I was having a good time. Not being super concerned with the outside and more on the inside, and how do I make the inside pretty? Well, you know, if you feel socially awkward there’s reasons why you feel socially awkward. He’s definitely not a ladies man, or thinks of himself as having enough confidence to be that type of person. I think as the character has progressed in the last couple years I maybe similarly have progressed in my own life.
And then at the same time I’m punching Isaac Hayes in the nose. When I did _Floating, _[ [_the over-the-top 1999 revenge drama that was his most successful role until _The Walking Dead] I was a very energetic wild person. Even the character on this show—now I’m very happy with who I am and I’m confident with who I am, but I still have my dukes up, and that’s the character I’m playing right now. Even with photography and artwork, I’ve really liked having grotesque things and finding beauty in them. Sleeping with Debbie Harry and killing her and taking her dead body on a bus out of town is one of my fondest memories, you know what I mean? Maybe you feel socially awkward on the outside because inside you don’t feel like you fit in. Like when someone’s crying and feeling horrible—watching that happen, or watching yourself do that, finding those little minute reasons and avenues that lock into why they feel like that, there’s something very cathartic and beautiful about it. I mean, I would rather listen to an old Cure song and get really introspective than "I’m walking on sunshine...everyone hold hands and jump up and down and smile". I want to play him searching for confidence, not full of confidence, you know what I mean? I like when a boy meets a girl, doesn’t know what to say and says the wrong thing, and she notices that and he notices that she notices that. I remember Frank Darabont, after the first season we were at a party in L. I think I was very nervous when I started and I’m more confident now, I think the character was more nervous than he is now.
what is has become, it’s clear that a certain part of the audience couldn’t possibly take any more delight in seeing ever-more-creative ways for people’s brains to be crushed or for their guts to spill out. And you’d be surprised the creative ways that they come with doing that that you haven’t seen before, it’s kind of mind-blowing. People were trying to come visit me and I wouldn’t let anyone come visit me.
Just wait till this season—there’s some new stuff that’s like, I never would have thought of. Obviously, as all cast members of _The Walking Dead _do, you’ve been asked a zillion times over what you would do in a zombie apocalypse. It was really like the Hunchback of Notre Dame thing going on—really kind of terrifying. My girlfriend at the time, I wouldn’t let her come.
But when you’re acting, you get criticized over your face and your body language and your voice and your haircut—all this weird shit. I really matured a lot in my mind and become a happier person in this job because I really like this job and I like the people I work with and I like the environment I work in. [He has quoted her saying, for instance: "Why can’t you just do a nice little role, romantic comedy with Jennifer Love Hewitt or something? Just troubled, dark, angry, quietly hostile, dangerous. You know, I get quoted a lot for saying "I like it when devils cry and angels stab you in the back." I really find that more interesting than "I’m a big bad wolf and I’m just gonna be a big bad wolf the whole time." I think it’s more interesting to see that wolf cub turn into a bad wolf, you know? An old lady in California, she was supposedly psychic and had a great intuition and whatnot, and she told me I had three little devils that were always around me. Who knows—maybe it was all in my head and she read my mind. It has nothing to do with interviews or the popularity of the show or anything like that, it has to do with there’s a certain part of me that I put into this character, and somehow they tune into whatever I’m feeling that the character’s feeling and relate it with their own lives—that’s really a good feeling.